« Sometimes wisdom comes from unexpected places. | Main | Palin the Prancing Pawn »

August 28, 2008

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Demetrius Gibson

Nothing in this country is done without some hidden agenda behind it... And it is never a pleasant surprise once it surfaces. Section 8 to me is one of those hidden agendas intended to suppress the good that is involved in helping those who are less off. What better plan than to get hard working Americans upset by the thought of someone who is less educated and less civilized, but for some reason have the same status as those who bask in the suburbia life.

"It seems like the plan is working like a charm."

Bit of Advice: Be thankful for yours, protect what's yours and don't worry about anybody else's!!

Hawa

@Demetrius: Less educated neighbors? Not a problem here. Less civilized? Not so much a problem here.

I'm not sure about the intended spirit of your advice, so I'll just share this...

I am eternally grateful for what I have. I'm no rich woman, by any stretch, but I have a roof over my head and some food on the table.

"Protecting" mine takes on a whole different flava when I'm surrounded by folks who don't give a rat's a** about my property, deal drugs, terrorize the neighborhood, steal electronic equipment from my minivan, and share their "lawn ornaments" on the grass in front of my home.

Not "worrying about anybody else's" is a fast way to lose your own, because what happens to the "least of us" will always happen to the rest of us.

I worry when my neighbor's house is on fire, because I understand how fire spreads. The same is true for social and economic issues.

I won't go into the way social programs (that worked with awesome results! by teaching a man to fish instead of handing him enough fish for a day) got scrapped for simple hand-outs. Social programs with roots in creating chronic dependence sometimes sound good on paper but are producing less and less innovative and productive citizens.

blujewel

Hawa, you've said so much between the post and your comment to Demetrius.

While Demetrius's last words have some value, I'm not seeing how he's seeing the bigger picture. When you protect yours, somehow you're still putting yourself in the line of fire because those with nothing to loose will always find ways to infringe as you've described. It's like when you get a new car and you park it at the far end of the lot, someone thinks you think you're too good to park closer, which incites some to go dent or scratch it; "just because".

Before I moved to my current home, I lived in a decent community and when they moved the new tenants in from the city, there went the neighborhood. The Section 8 renters treated their new digs like it was worth less than the squalor many of them had previously lived in. Meanwhile, their new digs were 2 bedroom, two bathroom condos and or townhomes with more space and amenities than they'd even been used to. It saddened me to watch the homeowners have to constantly fix what their tenants had broken, or neighbors worry about their homes or cars.

I've always been of the mindset that when someone hands you a lemon you make lemonade. I fail to see why people ruin something that's intended for their betterment. I'm truly pissed when I hear the many horror stories about Section 8 tenants. I so wish I could have the government subsidize my damn mortgage and me not appreciate it. *shakes head angrily*

Let me stop before I blog in your comments. I know you feel me.

Love!

Hawa

@Blu: Hey, girl! I set myself up to be misunderstood in this post, but because you know me, you caught my point.

I have friends that range the entire spectrum of background/upbringing, education, color... you name it.

This post wasn't about picking on folks who need financial assistance. Hell, I was a single mom on welfare once. Then I finished college and got off.

My point related to those who don't value their own lives (or Section 8 property) enough to make good neighbors. What can I say about those willing to pee on my investment because they don't respect the investment I made?

As some have lamented, poor neighborhoods used to be beautiful. Clean streets. Flowers. I grew up in such a neighborhood. Poor didn't mean "of destitute mind." It meant "has less money but just as much pride."

Demetrius mentions "hidden agendas," but I find the current state of welfare one of the biggest hidden agendas out there. Why do mothers have to pretend that fathers are absent to get help? Why is the brokenness of the family unit reward with assistance, but a unified couple is on their own? That's a crock, and it encourages broken families and hopelessness... the same hopelessness that has my Section 8 neighbors treating my neighborhood like a garbage can.

I don't care about a person's circumstances. I care about the heart. I personally know some poor and uneducated that I'd rather spend my time with than to spend a minute with a wealthy, educated jerk.

I hope Demetrius finds his way back here, because this is something worth talking about.

Demetrius Gibson

In my opinion I believe Section 8 is a backlash from the government rather than a blessing. The more outrage from civilized citizens justifies their reasoning behind why it's best for those of lower social status to be ignored. (That in my opinion is one of the US Government's "hidden agendas") I understand that some people just have no regard for the life of others, I also realize that there are people who desperately want to get out of the dangerous neighborhoods they live in, but lack the qualities needed to acquire a good paying job therefor they stay trapped in deplorable living condition. They "deserve" assistance, but I also feel the social workers need to do a better job of filtering out the bad characters before they instill them into good neighborhoods.

Hawa: Your anger is justified and it should not be overlooked, but I feel that some things just can not be controlled, just dealt with. And the best way to do that is by tending to yourself in every sensible way.

If you can't encourage the bad ones, reprimand them with your words, if that doesn't work call the police or start a protest!! LOL

rawdawgbuffalo

Im with D on this and u woman have a safe weekend

Anthony Taurus

Screw all of this civilized talk. I hate section 8. Plain and simple. Rarely do you ever see people on welfare that are trying to do better for themselves. They're sucking on the public's tit and that's really all it is. My father owns an apartment building in New York City. So from that alone, you know I've got stories. His problem is that, he's one of those guys that shake your hand and it's a deal, very old school. He wants to be helpful...blah. So, he accepts these mongrels and their bastard children hoping to give them a chance. The problem is, 2, 3, 4 years down the line and they haven't done a thing to better their situation.

We had one tenant here whose welfare dried up. So, what does she do? She starts destroying the apartment here and there so she could call housing and complain. What happens? Those complaints get 2+ years of free rent. We finally get this old hoodrat the hell out and she's trying to take EVERYTHING with her.

There are more stories in between as well. But, I'll finish off with the most recent set of useless bastards.

Now, we've got this young Spanish couple with a child. Instead they stay their behinds home with their parents, get jobs or go to school, they jump right on the public tit. The guy's a loser, smokes cigarettes around the baby regardless of how much his baby momma complains. Yet, neither of them are going to college. They're upstairs all day making noise and doing a whole lot of nothing.

I think the problem is that the people who need it don't go on it because they're too proud to be on it. They'll figure out a way to work 2-3 jobs and raise a child rather than be on the public tit like some adult babies. Then you have these mongrel animals who never knew what pride was in the first place. They won't dare pick up a finger to do anything to better themselves.

So, the people that you'd like to see in your neighborhood, or in my father's building, on welfare or "public assistance", those individuals who would do their best to get off welfare, are very few and far in between. So, we're always going to get these hoodrats that don't mind the free money at all. It's just the reality of the situation.

I tell my father to stop taking these people on. They're no good. We can't continue putting ourselves in this position ESPECIALLY when the choice is ours.

The comments to this entry are closed.

My Photo

. . . . . . . . . .

  • FOOD STAMPS CALL CENTER CREATING JOBS IN INDIA

    WHAT ABOUT UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS?



    Imagine, eliminating 100 American jobs to employ folks in India. All with bailout money. For a program designed to help the poor and unemployed here
    Story
    ...

  • NIGERIAN SCAMMERS TAKE ON CITIBANK AND ALMOST GET AWAY WITH $27MIL


    Just when you thought I might be fresh out of Nigerian scammer links, along comes a wise guy who kicks it up a notch to scam Citibank

    Way to go, Citi. We were silly to be concerned about you properly protecting bailout money.



  • REMEMBER THE McDONALD'S COFFEE LAWSUIT?



    Somebody wants to prove that suing McDonald's for serving hot coffee was not frivolous.

    The details are interesting. And they may have a good point. Check it out for yourself here.



  • APPARENTLY YOU CAN GET EXPELLED FROM CHRISTIAN SCHOOL FOR APPEARING GAY

    California courts gave a Christian high school the "okay" to expel two female students who were perceived to be lesbians.The apparent trigger? The girls identified themselves as best friends, and one said she loved the other.

    I guess I better stop telling my female friends I love them. Story here for more on this B.S.

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS WHEN YOU SHOOT A HANDCUFFED YOUNG FATHER IN THE BACK AS HE PLEADS FOR YOUR MERCY?

    The Bay Area Rapid Transit really screwed-up after the public films the execution of a young father. It seems reasonable to protest after watching a sickening injustice. Story here.



  • SINISTER MOTIVE BEHIND "FREE ENGRAVING" SERVICES


    The Consumerist reveals the Sony-method for combating high product return rates: OFFER FREE ENGRAVING.
    You can't return an engraved electronic, and this practice saves the company shyeet-loads of money.

    Original full story from WSJ here: The War on Returns

  • FUNKY ECONOMY LEAVES TEACHER SELLING ADS (TO APPEAR ON EXAM PAPERS) TO HELP PAY COPYING COSTS


    A calculus teacher needs $500 per year to make copies for tests and quizzes, but his budget is just over $300. So why not sell a little ad space to parents and local business?



  • WHITE CONSERVATIVES WHO SUPPORT OBAMA JUST MIGHT GET FIRED FOR EXERCISING THEIR FREE WILL


    Don't believe me? Just ask Dan Cooper (pictured above) who was ousted as chief executive from a Montana rifle company.



  • A GREAT MOVIE ABOUT THE ANATOMY OF RACIAL HATRED


    Ed Norton holds it down in American History X.



Blog powered by Typepad
Member since 03/2006

AfroSpear

  • Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

    Welcome to the AfroSpear!

DAILY CARTOON click to enlarge
ANDERTOONS.COM FAMILY CARTOONS

= = = = = = = = = =

  • WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REPLACE YOUR SIGNATURE WITH GENITAL SYMBOLISM?

    KingPin from Drunk Republic wanted to test how far he could go with unusual signatures on his credit card receipts. He was never caught for the insane words and symbols until he graduated to genitalia.



  • THE LADDER THEORY: "SCIENTIFIC" DATING THEORY OR BITTER DATELESS MEN?



    The creators describe The Ladder Theory as "a funny, scientific explanation of how men and women are attracted to each other."

    Walk through The Ladder Theory and you'll never look at your friends (of the opposite sex) the same way. LOL

  • "I'M NOT IRRITABLE, YOU'RE JUST F*CKING STUPID!"

    Only La Bella Vita could put out a list of "things I hate" quite this funny.



  • CHRISTIANS ARE SCARING ME TOO, MRS. BLUE

    Read here as Mrs. Blue, from Holy Shit by Deacon Blue, describes why she's reluctant to associate herself with other Christians, e.g. those of the Sarah Palin variety. I don't blame her one bit...



Spotlight: 3 Sites You Should Visit This Week